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richardf8 ([personal profile] richardf8) wrote2008-08-03 08:50 am
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Dark Knight: Less fun than having your appendix out.

After reading much critical acclaim Morgan and I went to see this with a friend of ours from Shul.



Batman/Bruce Wayne is the greatest villain in this universe. The Joker? Acting according to his nature, barely responsible for his own actions, as with a rabid animal running loose in a town the only moral course of action is to kill him. And Batman fails to do this. Why? I can't tell. Does he think that a justice system that has already failed tragically to hold him once is going to do anything about him? Indeed the Joker has effectively destroyed any semblance of Law and Order by the time Batman sends him hurtling to a certain death, only to save him at the last minute.

The Joker argues that Batman's refusal to reveal his identity makes Batman responsible for the Joker's murders. Harvey Dent correctly identifies this as a terroristic threat, and acts accordingly. Batman is not responsible for those murders. But having had the opportunity to kill the Joker and having passed it up, every single murder that the Joker now commits is on Batman's head, as far as I can tell.

And what the hell is up with that paternalistic BS that Batman/Bruce Wayne and and Commissioner Gordon pull at the end with preserving Harvey Dent's image as Hero and demonizing Batman further because "the common folk need something to believe in?"

When all is said and done, this film was a morally bankrupt morass of angst and horror that failed either to entertain or edify. Christopher Nolan has perpetrated an act of narrative sadism on the public, and the public, it seems, is either sufficiently depressed or sufficiently masochistic to sustain the film in the top rankings.

I go to movies to be entertained, if I want to stare into an abyss of moral depravity lacking either hero or savior, I'll watch CNN.

A word on Heath Ledger - his portrayal of the Joker was excellent, and I suspect led him to his death. Jack Nicholson, who has portrayed The Shining's Jack Torrance, Satan, and the previous Batman's less disturbing joker is said to have warned Ledger about the role. From Jack Nicholson, such a warning is to be taken seriously.

[identity profile] jack-mirth.livejournal.com 2008-08-06 03:09 am (UTC)(link)
it would be more disturbing to me if it was a documentary, but as realistic as it is, it's still a movie and there are certain suspensions and assumptions one makes. one of the assumptions one has to accept in Batman Begins and The Dark Knight is that Gotham is a city on the edge of collapse and despair, and needs only a push to send it into anarchy and chaos. they really would be unable to handle harvey's fall, and no one would ever attempt to clean up the streets legitmately again. if you make a public announcement that "the District Attorney went crazy and died trying to clean up the streets, so who wants to go next?" i don't think you'll have very many volunteers.

and as for the end, he certainly didn't leave the Joker "at large" at the end of the movie. he left him dangling from a steel cable hundreds of feet above the ground moments away from a heavily armed SWAT team. i think the assumption that we are supposed to make is that Joker is pretty well and firmly captured and Gordon won't make the same mistakes twice and allow Joker to escape.